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. >> well, i think that the real turning point for this president was that debt debate over the debt ceiling in july and august of 2011 and there an opportunity there and it came close, and i will not ascribe blame because there is probably enough going around when it looked like the president and john boehner were able to make a grand bargain, 3, $4 trillion in deficit reduction, it fell apart and rightly or wrongly it seems clear that the president and the white house decided at that point, we can't do business with these guys. boehner can't control the tea party element in his own house. and we're going to have to start running for president and running for president, pushing a liberal agenda. really from mid-summer, boehner says from labor day of 2011, he was very much running for president, pushing the liberal agenda. he was the protector of the middle class. and it is continued up through his re-election and now we see it in his inaugural address, very little talk about common ground. you know he basically dismissed his republican opposition as absolutism, as name-calling. i th
. >> well, i think that the real turning point for this president was that debt debate over the debt ceiling in july and august of 2011 and there an opportunity there and it came close, and i will not ascribe blame because there is probably enough going around when it looked like the president and john boehner were able to make a grand bargain, 3, $4 trillion in deficit reduction, it fell apart and rightly or wrongly it seems clear that the president and the white house decided at that...
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williamsburg even before these winter meetings telling the caucus we have to make this deal on the debt ceiling and fight -- live to fight another day, he really is looking more and more like a 2016 possibility because he is trying to recast the posture of the party. >> i don't know where he gets tough sacrifices. what he asked before, and now he wants to do a budget of ten years that will balance the budget. you know, to do that would require even more drastic cuts that i think he knows democrats will not go along with. that's going to be difficult. i think it's a question of what issues do they take off the table like immigration as well as how they approach the budget and build out their own coalition, which they haven't figured out yet. >> and we see transitions tim geithner, saying good-bye. he ligue really with the respect of the white house and respect of the markets? >> i think, you know, it's a question that paul krugman gets at in the "new york times" today. what et cetera the right path to ultimately create jobs and growth? >> do you still have to focus on the deficit, or wil
williamsburg even before these winter meetings telling the caucus we have to make this deal on the debt ceiling and fight -- live to fight another day, he really is looking more and more like a 2016 possibility because he is trying to recast the posture of the party. >> i don't know where he gets tough sacrifices. what he asked before, and now he wants to do a budget of ten years that will balance the budget. you know, to do that would require even more drastic cuts that i think he knows...
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the budget, the most immediate problem, tomorrow the house is voting on this extended debt ceiling and this is to avoid a confrontation in the short-term, but the large ers issues remain. >> that was quite a performance saying don't go there. i got this one, and they backed away. that has been lost in the excitement over the last couple of days. it just gets kicked down the road, and can you tell from his speech yesterday that he has -- the democratic coalition is in no mood to give an inch on spending, and it remains the big problem whether you really, democrat or republican, on the budget because it was unaddressed in the last round. you can tell the republicans want to get at it. if that was a sign of compromise yesterday, it was the shortest one sentence sign that i have ever seen. so a fight is come. >> a fight is coming, and we all know that you can not do it without dealing with the main entitlements. there is no way -- >> well, that's exactly right. >> there is no way at this stage without -- >> dealing with that. in that speech he made it very clear where he said -- >> he is n
the budget, the most immediate problem, tomorrow the house is voting on this extended debt ceiling and this is to avoid a confrontation in the short-term, but the large ers issues remain. >> that was quite a performance saying don't go there. i got this one, and they backed away. that has been lost in the excitement over the last couple of days. it just gets kicked down the road, and can you tell from his speech yesterday that he has -- the democratic coalition is in no mood to give an...
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there's very little by way of relationships across the aisle and we ran up to a break of the debt ceiling crisis in compromise was reached, retaining the half. we sat by focusing on the problem of congress whose popularity is at all-time lows. you can account for the 9% popularity by blood relatives and paid staffer. with that by on congress, we could diagnose the problem for how to overcome it. >> host: was one of those prescriptions? >> guest: one of those prescription is very simple, which is congressmen need to exercise leadership by putting aside the campaigning long enough to govern. and uncompromising mindset. in order to do that, they have to spend more time in washington, less time raising money and people say that's going to hurt them in the next election. what we sais politicians didn't enter politics just to be stand on principle. few people think politicians are attracted to politics because they were the most principled people in a population. they retracted because they want to govern. leadership takes relationships. we have this phrase, which is familiarity breeds the tom.
there's very little by way of relationships across the aisle and we ran up to a break of the debt ceiling crisis in compromise was reached, retaining the half. we sat by focusing on the problem of congress whose popularity is at all-time lows. you can account for the 9% popularity by blood relatives and paid staffer. with that by on congress, we could diagnose the problem for how to overcome it. >> host: was one of those prescriptions? >> guest: one of those prescription is very...
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ceiling crisis before compromise was reached which was routine so we thought that by focusing on the problem of the congress whose popularity is an all-time low as john mccain said you can account for the 9% popularity of congress during the debt ceiling crisis by blood relatives and paid staffers and we felt that by focusing on the converse, we could both diagnose the problem and give some prescriptions for how to overcome it. its chemical is one of those prescriptions? >> one of those prescriptions is very simple which is congressmen need exercise, leadership by mixing mind sets by putting aside the campaign mindset long enough to govern and adopting the compromising mind set. in order to do that they need relationships so they can spend more time in washington and less time raising money and people will say that's going to hurt them in the next election but we say that the politicians didn't enter politics just to stand on principle. very few people said politicians were entrusted to politics because they were the most principled people in the population they were in the public's
ceiling crisis before compromise was reached which was routine so we thought that by focusing on the problem of the congress whose popularity is an all-time low as john mccain said you can account for the 9% popularity of congress during the debt ceiling crisis by blood relatives and paid staffers and we felt that by focusing on the converse, we could both diagnose the problem and give some prescriptions for how to overcome it. its chemical is one of those prescriptions? >> one of those...
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. >> reporter: republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling, house g.o.p. members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised, a move the president has demanded. >> it's believe it's a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a higher debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they have not done in four years, pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> senate democrats view a vote as an opportunity to raise more money through taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity for us, because in our budget that we will pass, we will have tax reform which many of my republicans like but it will include revenue. >> the increase will likely happen tomorrow. >>> one other provision of the debt limit
. >> reporter: republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling, house g.o.p. members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised, a move the president has demanded. >> it's believe it's a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a higher debt...
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. >> reporter: republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling, house g.o.p. members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a higher debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they have not done in four years, pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt, we've got to have the focus be on a budget and what we're going to do to achieve a balanced budget over time. >> reporter: senate democrats view a budget vote as an opportunity to raise more money through taxes. >> it's going to be a great opportunity. in our budget that we will pass we'll have tax reform, which many colleagues like but it will include revenues. >> reporter: the house is expected to approve the debt limit increase tomor
. >> reporter: republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling, house g.o.p. members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling is raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve...
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. >> reporter: but there is a trues in the battle over the debt ceiling. wednesday, house republicans are expected to pass legislation allowing the government to pay the bills for the next few months. republicans made clear that it was not the right thing to do, to play chicken with the full faith and credit of the united states. >> reporter: but this debt limit deal demands democrats in if senate do something 97 not done -- they have not done in nearly four years: pass a budget. >> we clearly near a budget. there hasn't been a budget in three and a half years. the debt has gone up $5 trillion since we had a budget in the senate. >> reporter: the g.o.p. initially wanted to use a vote on the debt limit to force democrats and the president to agree to more spending cuts. randall pinkston, cbs news, washington. >>> earlier in this newscast, we showed you a 49ers fan who tattooed his love for the team in vallejo tonight. now let's introduce you to nez adrian. he is the reno tattoo artist who incorporated colin kaepernick. he had kaepernick as a can vice since
. >> reporter: but there is a trues in the battle over the debt ceiling. wednesday, house republicans are expected to pass legislation allowing the government to pay the bills for the next few months. republicans made clear that it was not the right thing to do, to play chicken with the full faith and credit of the united states. >> reporter: but this debt limit deal demands democrats in if senate do something 97 not done -- they have not done in nearly four years: pass a budget....
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. >>> today the house voted to suspend the debt ceiling passing a bill that business the country another four months before it risks default but there's a catch. the bill is called no budget no pay. both chambers of congress have to pass a budget resolution or they don't get paid. house democrats against the bill call it a political gimmick. those in favor say it takes the threat of default off the table. >>> we are hearing from manti te'o for the first time since the whole fake girlfriend thing got exposed. the notre dame linebacker spoke to katie couric for her nationally syndicated daytime talk show katie. she asked him why he lied about his internet girlfriend after he found out that she never existed. >> this girl who i committed myself to died on september 12th. now i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive and then i want to be put on national tv two days later and they ask me about the same question. you know, what would you do? >> the katie exclusive will air tomorrow. >>> san francisco congresswoman nancy pelosi says picking out her favorite team for the super
. >>> today the house voted to suspend the debt ceiling passing a bill that business the country another four months before it risks default but there's a catch. the bill is called no budget no pay. both chambers of congress have to pass a budget resolution or they don't get paid. house democrats against the bill call it a political gimmick. those in favor say it takes the threat of default off the table. >>> we are hearing from manti te'o for the first time since the whole...
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one example the debt creel and controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive order approach a whole lot better than the legislative approach. you can't get all that foreign with executive order. you have to legislate and you have to legislate realistically. you have to realize you don't control the entire congress. >> republicans don't like that the president is converting his campaign apparatus into a purpose that helped him in his second term. they are thinking that is probably not a good sign in working in a bipartisan fashion. >> one area where they do not agree at all is over the budget. it>> it has been a source of problems when they work on critical issues and budget is a key c
one example the debt creel and controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive...
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ceiling, gun control and how to get congress to work together. we'll get to that. but last night it was all about celebrating the second term of the 44th president of the united states of america. nbc's steve handelsman has more. >> reporter: they wowed the crowd at the inaugural balls. president obama in white tie but first lady michelle obama in a ruby red gown by jason wu. this was the ball for the military. >> i have no greater honor than being your commander in chief. >> reporter: it had been an obama family day. malia and sasha, dad and mom. as america paid tribute. an inaugural parade that showed off the nation's talent and diversity. >> i, barack hussein obama, do solemnly swear. >> reporter: the presidential's ceremonial swearing-in witnessed by as many as 1 million people. >> congratulations, mr. obama. >> reporter: mr. obama urged cooperation, rare now in washington, to cut health care costs and the deficit. >> but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in t
ceiling, gun control and how to get congress to work together. we'll get to that. but last night it was all about celebrating the second term of the 44th president of the united states of america. nbc's steve handelsman has more. >> reporter: they wowed the crowd at the inaugural balls. president obama in white tie but first lady michelle obama in a ruby red gown by jason wu. this was the ball for the military. >> i have no greater honor than being your commander in chief. >>...
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ceiling and said, all right. they will extend it for only three months, not good enough. they said they will extend it notno strings attached without all of the cuts to social security and medicare they had been demanding bluffs president obama, we got his back and he stays tough, gets things done in this second term. let's talk about it 866-55-press here on the "full-court press." it's monday morning, inaugural day, january 21st. >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. current tv presents special coverage of the presidential inauguration. the pomp, the circumstance the insight and analysis. only on current tv. we have a big big hour and the iq will go way up. (vo) current tv gets the converstion started weekdays at 9am eastern. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. >> the troops love me. (vo) tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >> you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. just be grateful curren
ceiling and said, all right. they will extend it for only three months, not good enough. they said they will extend it notno strings attached without all of the cuts to social security and medicare they had been demanding bluffs president obama, we got his back and he stays tough, gets things done in this second term. let's talk about it 866-55-press here on the "full-court press." it's monday morning, inaugural day, january 21st. >> this is "the full court press: the bill...
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plenty on his to do list including the debt ceiling immigration reform and gun control. he made clear yesterday he will be tying his legacy to lgbt rights. yesterday morning in one of the biggest speeches of his career, he referred to our gay brothers and sisters. it is first time any president has been this supportive of lgbt rights. although he's made big strides in the arena he still has a long way to go. this march, the supreme court will be taking up the issue of gay marriage and obama's made it pretty clear the law should treat gays and lesbians equal to the way it treats straight couples. more bill up next. arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not just a spectator sport. [ male announcer ] shift the balance of power decisively in your favor. the excl
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when we come back, republicans caved on the debt ceiling. so what's next? >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv. fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversations, not to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying, and i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> i'm pleased speaker boehner has decided to change course and pass the bill that over the debt ceiling. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: 13 minutes before the top of the hour on the "full court press" here this thursday morning. when we come -- in the top of the next hour rather, we'll be joined by lynn sweet from the "chicago sun times" as a "friend of bill." for the whole hour. and then former sena
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and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w
and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >>...
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i think what's going to happen on the debt ceiling they're going to vote to extend the debt ceiling for a couple of months and that's good. we don't want to be in a situation where we're defaulting or the threat of default, but i think they need to tie that back to something and maybe it's not the big and grand bargain with the entitlement plans right now, but i think at a minimum they have to tie it back to getting a budget at the senate, that begins the conversation. >> greta: it seems to me one of the large problems that small businesses have, correct me if i'm wrong, there's no certainty because congress and the president never make up their mind and they bring everything to the brink and pass something for three months. you don't no he what's going to happen with our tax structure or the debt ceiling. am i right? they don't sit down and make a decision that the lack of impact to make decisions in your business. >> one thing is a lack of certainty and the things we're certain of for small businesses, and hate to keep beating a dead horse, president obama is one of the job killers in
i think what's going to happen on the debt ceiling they're going to vote to extend the debt ceiling for a couple of months and that's good. we don't want to be in a situation where we're defaulting or the threat of default, but i think they need to tie that back to something and maybe it's not the big and grand bargain with the entitlement plans right now, but i think at a minimum they have to tie it back to getting a budget at the senate, that begins the conversation. >> greta: it seems...
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you have a plan to deal with the debt ceiling. i want you to explain it. i've been skeptical of it, but i'm coming around and see that they might actually be some wisdom behind it and i'm giving you credit as a strong credit of the cliff deal. explain it. >> what's going forward right now, we do not want to give any long-term new debt limit as you go forward. so what we're saying is here is the senate that has not produced a budget. you know it, sean, your listeners know it, but not many across america. the last time this democrat-controlled senate passed a budget, the ipad wasn't even introduced yet and they've already gone through what, three different versions? so we're doing a short-term moving the debt limit past the april 15th deadline, 'cause the most responsible thing any elected official could do is do a budget. how do you plan for the future. so we move it to there and if you don't pass the budget you don't get paid and now what? before that time, those cuts that we fought for in the last debt limit. they go into effect the first of the month. >>
you have a plan to deal with the debt ceiling. i want you to explain it. i've been skeptical of it, but i'm coming around and see that they might actually be some wisdom behind it and i'm giving you credit as a strong credit of the cliff deal. explain it. >> what's going forward right now, we do not want to give any long-term new debt limit as you go forward. so what we're saying is here is the senate that has not produced a budget. you know it, sean, your listeners know it, but not many...
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when we take up the debt ceiling deal? reporter: the senate is likely to take up the bill some time next week. they are required to pass a budget by april 15. bottom line, fiscal conservative senators are loving it. >> they have really written some good budgets, tough budget that they have defended, but the democratic senate has just a few. they say send more money. they need the american people to send more money. we don't need a budget to tell you where the money is going to be. so i think that they understand. >> some are complaining that the senate democrats refused to do about it for three years in a row. finally, now that the house has passed the measure and we start to hear the senate democrats saying that they are going to do a budget. jon: is part of that deal, they are required to pass it by april 15, or else no budget and no pay. they will ultimately get paid down the road, but for those who are not part of the millionaires club, no paycheck, even in the short term. arthel: what are the democrats in the senate s
when we take up the debt ceiling deal? reporter: the senate is likely to take up the bill some time next week. they are required to pass a budget by april 15. bottom line, fiscal conservative senators are loving it. >> they have really written some good budgets, tough budget that they have defended, but the democratic senate has just a few. they say send more money. they need the american people to send more money. we don't need a budget to tell you where the money is going to be. so i...
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ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome so that we no
ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a...
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what they did was important for the country, not screw around with the debt ceiling. and let's sit down and try to solve our long-term problems. that's the attitude we should be taking. we shouldn't rub anybody's face in the sand because things change. >> governor ed rendell, john braybender, more to come. always good to see you. >>> also making news, despite calls for calm, hundreds prove testers have been clashing with police in cairo in a violent start to the second anniversary of the uprigss that tloed ouster of hosni mubarak. the protesters are unhappy with the progress that's been made since the revolution. and this shines a light on the ongoing divide between islamists and their secular opponents. >>> a new threat from north korea. pyongyang threatened to attack south korea if seoul joins in a new round of united nations sanctions. north korea calls the sanctions, quote, a declaration of war. >>> and as if the flu season wasn't enough to worry about, a new strain of the norovirus stomach bug is sweeping through the u.s. and it's nasty with gut-wrenching effects
what they did was important for the country, not screw around with the debt ceiling. and let's sit down and try to solve our long-term problems. that's the attitude we should be taking. we shouldn't rub anybody's face in the sand because things change. >> governor ed rendell, john braybender, more to come. always good to see you. >>> also making news, despite calls for calm, hundreds prove testers have been clashing with police in cairo in a violent start to the second...
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this in preparation for tomorrow's vote on raising the debt ceiling. i don't know anyone who would necessarily be against congress going without pay at this point. chuck schumer said a budget is in the works, but it disease include a plan to raise taxes. there were two other unscripted memorable moments from yesterday's inauguration. first malia obama making funny faces. and al roker declaring victory, dropping the mic and then getting joe biden to jog over and shake his hand. there is a lot of speculation that the veep is gearing up for 2016, by accidentally announcing he was president instead of vice president. iowa new hampshire, of course a early voting state. we'll be back with more show charlie pierce, right-wing world right after the break. ♪ arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves.
this in preparation for tomorrow's vote on raising the debt ceiling. i don't know anyone who would necessarily be against congress going without pay at this point. chuck schumer said a budget is in the works, but it disease include a plan to raise taxes. there were two other unscripted memorable moments from yesterday's inauguration. first malia obama making funny faces. and al roker declaring victory, dropping the mic and then getting joe biden to jog over and shake his hand. there is a lot of...
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punting the debt ceiling. a vote is going to go through today. >> punting it down three more months. >> hal: a three-month wait to deal with -- >> because why get done today what you can put off? >> hal: because people are still glowing in the aftermath of the inauguration. people are still recognizing the president -- their message that the president isn't interested in deficits and handling it because he did mention it in his inauguration. he did mention doing in a balanced approach and the american people agree with him on that part. so if they have to act on it in the next week, people are still that much engaged. they're hoping in three months the american public will disengage enough for them to create another false narrative. >> so when we talk about rating the debt ceiling. we've already racked up the bills and we have to pay them. that's an obvious -- that's the fact. >> hal: right. >> they like to combine the two right and make it about future spending and paying off the bills. the president says it
punting the debt ceiling. a vote is going to go through today. >> punting it down three more months. >> hal: a three-month wait to deal with -- >> because why get done today what you can put off? >> hal: because people are still glowing in the aftermath of the inauguration. people are still recognizing the president -- their message that the president isn't interested in deficits and handling it because he did mention it in his inauguration. he did mention doing in a...
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ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way democrats do. we actually went through this with paul ryan's budget which was so egregious the leader of his party had to back away from it in the campaign. >> stephanie: yeah, it was seen as sort of a slap at the senate but they are calling it the no budget, no pay idea. it has been regarded by a lot of people as a gimmick. here they go. it's a new way to play some sort of partisan games right? >> exactly. and it doesn't guarantee that there will be a compromised budget agreement between the house and senate. they can pass one, just as the house can pass one. and that's
ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way...
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i think we should have a clean debt ceiling extension and the fact they coupled it together probably is not how i would have introduced legislation. that said, our job is putting together a responsible budget. that allows the public to see what our priorities are, how we're going to use our tax revenue. and we can do this in a smart way. >> one thing that is going on currently as we speak, the confirmation hearings for john kerry to take over for secretary clinton, and yesterday, it was certainly a big day on the hill for secretary clinton about the benghazi situation. i want to play for everybody what you had to say as well as senator barbara boxer told the secretary of state. >> as a new member of congress, i think i speak for all the freshman that we're not going to get much time to serve with you, but we hope in a few years we'll get that chance to serve again. >> i want to thank you because this is maybe the last time you'll come before us as secretary here. i want to thank you for your advocacy on behalf of women around the globe. you will be sorely missed, but i, for one, hope
i think we should have a clean debt ceiling extension and the fact they coupled it together probably is not how i would have introduced legislation. that said, our job is putting together a responsible budget. that allows the public to see what our priorities are, how we're going to use our tax revenue. and we can do this in a smart way. >> one thing that is going on currently as we speak, the confirmation hearings for john kerry to take over for secretary clinton, and yesterday, it was...
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>> they took a baby step with this debt ceiling thing saying you pass a budget. the next step is to say, okay, as part of a program of fiscal responsibility, we have to do something about this going forward. the reality is, republicans do not have much leverage. they lack the courage of their own convictions. they are scared silly because they think they will lose elections that way. dagen: what is the game plan down the road, though? will they just wait until we are on the verge of these programs starting to run out of at least some money and then they will raise taxes on wealthier people to fund them? there has to be a long game plan >> you are talking about these politicians acting like adults and thinking long-term. i do not think there is a long-term game plan when it comes to dealing with entitlements. connell: paul krugman wrote a big piece about that. we do not have to do with it now, just put it off. >> just think about the debate that we are having right now. democrats are saying we need to raise taxes for government spending. it is medicare, social sec
>> they took a baby step with this debt ceiling thing saying you pass a budget. the next step is to say, okay, as part of a program of fiscal responsibility, we have to do something about this going forward. the reality is, republicans do not have much leverage. they lack the courage of their own convictions. they are scared silly because they think they will lose elections that way. dagen: what is the game plan down the road, though? will they just wait until we are on the verge of these...
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you are looking ahead to the debt ceiling and saying another policy error could be a big market hit. what do you mean by that? >> we look can't think we are still in this leveraging scenario. it is not over. debt levels are still high in the u.s. and many developing economies. we have to bring those down to create a nice fundamental situation. that provides a lot of opportunity for policymakers to make mistakes or mess things up. and the extension in front of -- a sequester coming. the extension of the budgets for the coming year, in europe we still have spain refinancing 20% of gdp in debt, more than enough opportunities, that is not a best case. >> you are talking about the united states, the worst enemy at this point. to get these jobless claims at week 5-year lows, nice to see but if unemployment is at 10%, in range for 2013, and it will take 1/2% of of the gdp, no jobs, don't even have an economic recovery and no jobs. >> not necessarily a bad economy, we are in an okay economy, not great because 1/2%, from a fiscal austerity coming through the pike, the job situation is improvi
you are looking ahead to the debt ceiling and saying another policy error could be a big market hit. what do you mean by that? >> we look can't think we are still in this leveraging scenario. it is not over. debt levels are still high in the u.s. and many developing economies. we have to bring those down to create a nice fundamental situation. that provides a lot of opportunity for policymakers to make mistakes or mess things up. and the extension in front of -- a sequester coming. the...
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that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase. >> one of the nations largest federal contractors, general dynamic, announced in recent days a $2 billion loss which it is blaming on defense cuts and falling government demand. >> the measures will have to be taken. layoffs and the defense industry. most importantly to me, devastating growth to our national security at the sequestration takes place. it is up to congress and the president to act together. frankly, so far, i have not been the type of urgency that many of us feel about sequestration and its implementation. >> it seems that the war being wound down in afghanistan that the real fight is beginning at home for tighter budgets. melissa: jennifer griffin, thank you very much. illinois heading to disaster. joining us now, dan rutherford. that is coming up. lori: are you overeducated and underemployed? the new normal of this job recovery. ♪ . . . .. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you have questions about incorporating a busi
that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase. >> one of the nations largest federal contractors, general dynamic, announced in recent days a $2 billion loss which it is blaming on defense cuts and falling government demand. >> the measures will have to be taken. layoffs and the defense industry. most importantly to me, devastating growth to our national security at the sequestration takes place. it is up to congress and the president to act together. frankly, so far, i have...
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that pushes the debt ceiling to may 18th. the back end of number of cliffs upcoming in the calendar. look here at the government deadlines the congress and white house are facing right now. first, march 1st are the automatic spending cuts known as the sequester. they begin to hit the federal budget. that is something that takes place over the course of the year and is gradual. march 27th, that is when government spending runs out. or a large chunk of it. if there is no agreement on that, that could shut down the federal government. you're looking at debt ceiling all the way on may 18th. congressional aides saying treasury is telling them pause of extraordinary measures they can use, this pushes the debt ceiling day back to sometime this summer perhaps if this is a bill that clears congress and the senate is going to consider it the next couple of days and likely it does pass of the because the debt ceiling is pushed off and the next real fast deadline is march 27th, that government spending deadline, analysts say that increas
that pushes the debt ceiling to may 18th. the back end of number of cliffs upcoming in the calendar. look here at the government deadlines the congress and white house are facing right now. first, march 1st are the automatic spending cuts known as the sequester. they begin to hit the federal budget. that is something that takes place over the course of the year and is gradual. march 27th, that is when government spending runs out. or a large chunk of it. if there is no agreement on that, that...
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ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of state said, and i'm quoting her, we are facing a spreading hi hjihadist threat across nort africa. is it your view that the attack on the consulate in libya, the hostage taking at that gas plant in algeria, and the conflict in mali mean that north africa is now the main front for islamic terrorism and how does a new secretary of state confront this? >> great question. i don't know that i would say it's the main front, but it is certainly a serious front and a serious set of interlocked issues. one thing we hav
ceiling. the american economy somebody very important to the global economy. we cannot have the kind of nonsense we've had going on in the building behind me and think that that's going to be either good foreign policy or economic policy for around the globe, not just here at home. i think he was trying to remind people we do live in a global economy. it is interconnected and that that does impact our foreign policy and our defenses. >> it clearly does. michael, the outgoing secretary of...
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is that this idea that there is a deficit crisis and we're going to be greece if we don't breach the debt ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as krugman and i argue, there is no crisis, if there is no crisis, they're just out there in nowhere land by themselves, by the way, without the majority of the electorate behind them. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to come out of the senate, and i think patty murray is going to do a very good job on that, is going to reconcile with the kind of budgets we're looking at. >> jared bernstein who absolutely deserves the nobel peace prize, thank you, sir, thank you
is that this idea that there is a deficit crisis and we're going to be greece if we don't breach the debt ceiling and impose budgets that cut the government 40% in ten years, the idea behind those crisis mongers is that we have to slash the heck out of social insurance, out of programs that provide educational opportunities for poor people, out of things that push back against economic inequality. we can't afford it. we must cut them. the crisis dictates it. if there is no crisis and, as...
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. >>> the president's second term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> and for those who need a quick campaign 2012 refresher, it was quite obvious to whom that phrase, a nation of takers, was directed at. >> we can become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. more takers than makers in society. takers versus makers in america. >> could have been listening to ayn rand then. joining us is democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. >> good to be back with you. >> congratulations on a new congress. in an interview today paul ryan said those comments
. >>> the president's second term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks...
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let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road, kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 0% chance it passes. >> good, because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said, we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes outside with the outside game and tries to
let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road, kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun...
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they have three flash points coming up, continuing resolution, sequestration, and the debt ceiling. and i think they're going to approach those in a very smart way. and i'm excited about what's ahead of us. i think reince priebus is part of the solution. i think he's done a good job. i'm going to support him, but i'm going to support him because i think he's for what's going to make our party stronger and better. and i don't want to be disrespectful, but i'm for joe biden in 2016. i know this is a no anti-joe zone, but i think from a republican standpoint, the best chance we would have against joe biden more so than hillary clinton. >> as they say, be careful what you wish for. get your act together at home ferris. >> cokie roberts, thank you so much, joe nasef, thank you as well. david ignatius, do you want to stick around? >> yeah. >>> up next, we have some of the other big headlines from the morning papers. keep it right here on "morning joe." i'm jessica simpson. and this year is all about new beginnings for me. i lost over 50 lbs on weight watchers and did not have to be perfec
they have three flash points coming up, continuing resolution, sequestration, and the debt ceiling. and i think they're going to approach those in a very smart way. and i'm excited about what's ahead of us. i think reince priebus is part of the solution. i think he's done a good job. i'm going to support him, but i'm going to support him because i think he's for what's going to make our party stronger and better. and i don't want to be disrespectful, but i'm for joe biden in 2016. i know this...
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. >> debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling stuff. it seems like this is a city that he gets -- he is more of an insider in washington than he was four years ago. i will say about the denis mcdonough appointment, it's good to finally see a white guy get a top job. it's really -- they've been shut out. >> they gave him a chance. >> thanks god. >> there's a reason why this was held up. the president jokes about saying it's the best kept secret in washington. we've all known. we've all reported in various ways that he is the choice. what did they do yesterday? they appointed a female to be lady of the s.e.c. it mattered. the scheduling worked to stack this one today zoosh the optics on it. >> i actually had thought he was already named chief of staff. that's how bad the secret was. we have to take a break, but when we come back, senators and frenemies. they strike a deal for the much maligned filibuster. is it still business as usual in the upper chamber? we'll discuss next. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewa
. >> debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling stuff. it seems like this is a city that he gets -- he is more of an insider in washington than he was four years ago. i will say about the denis mcdonough appointment, it's good to finally see a white guy get a top job. it's really -- they've been shut out. >> they gave him a chance. >> thanks god. >> there's a reason why this was held up. the president jokes about saying it's the best kept secret in washington. we've all...
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ceiling. how he is putting his foot down and moving forward, all of the i shall shoes that we want to see changed. i think this is the time. we have a new president. and there's a song that says what are they doing in heaven today? and i'm sure dr. martin luther king, jr., today was cheering the watch party. >> the president, as we're speaking, you're seeing the president is leaving the viewing stand, the parade is over. and he is leaving the viewing stand. that's a live shot of the president and the vice president. leaving the viewing stand and shortly we'll go in and get prepared for the inaugural bats tonight. there will be two of them that the president has publically announced. he will attend the military ball and the regular presidential ball. governor rendell, you've watched and worked with presidents as governor, as the chair of the dnc. tell us from your vantage point the difference between president obama and 2009 and his first inaugural and the president obama we saw today? >> well,
ceiling. how he is putting his foot down and moving forward, all of the i shall shoes that we want to see changed. i think this is the time. we have a new president. and there's a song that says what are they doing in heaven today? and i'm sure dr. martin luther king, jr., today was cheering the watch party. >> the president, as we're speaking, you're seeing the president is leaving the viewing stand, the parade is over. and he is leaving the viewing stand. that's a live shot of the...
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as the debt ceiling vote, which got trumped today. leon panetta saying women will be on the front lines. big news day. that is it for panel. stay tuned for a little case of deja vu. excuse me, sir i'm ga have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions that turn fans
as the debt ceiling vote, which got trumped today. leon panetta saying women will be on the front lines. big news day. that is it for panel. stay tuned for a little case of deja vu. excuse me, sir i'm ga have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little...
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ceiling suspension until may by a vote of 285-144 yesterday. i guess a hard day's work deserves a week and a half of recess. >> amen. >> meantime, the senate is in session today and harry reid and mitch mcconnell apparently agreed on a filibuster reform deal. a senator can no longer filibuster the so-called motion to proceed and killed a chance for up or down vote on legislation and be easier to appoint members to negotiate with the house once a bill is passed and until now even after a fill buster is beaten, there is still a 30-hour wait before a nominee confirmed. this time would now be cut to just two hours. the leaders also agreed any senator wishing to filibuster must come to the senate floor to do so. now, the steps might seem to represent progress but not nearly what many progressives wishing for. the headline in "the huffington post" says it all calling it failibuster. >> whoa. >> 60-vote senate is still intact. today is ira shap ro and also author of "the last great senate." and he joins us now. ira, i want to get to the filibuster dea
ceiling suspension until may by a vote of 285-144 yesterday. i guess a hard day's work deserves a week and a half of recess. >> amen. >> meantime, the senate is in session today and harry reid and mitch mcconnell apparently agreed on a filibuster reform deal. a senator can no longer filibuster the so-called motion to proceed and killed a chance for up or down vote on legislation and be easier to appoint members to negotiate with the house once a bill is passed and until now even...